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Overseeding jaygreg 09-06-2006
Posted by jaygreg on September 6, 2006, 1:53 am
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I'm considering thatching and resseding my lawn. A local equipment rental
showed me a machine by Classen
(http://littlewonder.com/turf-seeder-self-propelled.asp) called a turf
seeder (he called it an overseeder) that he thinks I should use. When I saw
the arrangement of the blades - considering the machine drops seed first
then lets the 24 or so blades roll over them, my eyebrows rose; it seems to
me a lot of seed will simply fall on top of the grass and those blades will
miss them. It doesn't look like there's enough vibration to shake the seeds
down through the existing lawn and onto the furrows the blades create.

Is this a recommended way to get seed into a mature lawn that needs to
thicken to prevent unwanted weeds? Or should I rent a thatcher then this
machine to plant the seed when all the thatch is gone. The guy at the rental
agency says the machine will thach as well but not as much as a stand-alone
type.



Posted by Stubby on September 6, 2006, 9:08 am
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The machine will work fine if your lawn is perfectly flat.

jaygreg wrote:
> I'm considering thatching and resseding my lawn. A local equipment rental
> showed me a machine by Classen
> (http://littlewonder.com/turf-seeder-self-propelled.asp) called a turf
> seeder (he called it an overseeder) that he thinks I should use. When I saw
> the arrangement of the blades - considering the machine drops seed first
> then lets the 24 or so blades roll over them, my eyebrows rose; it seems to
> me a lot of seed will simply fall on top of the grass and those blades will
> miss them. It doesn't look like there's enough vibration to shake the seeds
> down through the existing lawn and onto the furrows the blades create.
>
> Is this a recommended way to get seed into a mature lawn that needs to
> thicken to prevent unwanted weeds? Or should I rent a thatcher then this
> machine to plant the seed when all the thatch is gone. The guy at the rental
> agency says the machine will thach as well but not as much as a stand-alone
> type.
>
>

Posted by jaygreg on September 6, 2006, 9:48 am
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??? There is no such thing as a perfectly flat lawn in my neighborhodd (or
anyboby else's I've ever seen).

> The machine will work fine if your lawn is perfectly flat.
>
> jaygreg wrote:
>> I'm considering thatching and resseding my lawn. A local equipment rental
>> showed me a machine by Classen
>> (http://littlewonder.com/turf-seeder-self-propelled.asp) called a turf
>> seeder (he called it an overseeder) that he thinks I should use. When I
>> saw the arrangement of the blades - considering the machine drops seed
>> first then lets the 24 or so blades roll over them, my eyebrows rose; it
>> seems to me a lot of seed will simply fall on top of the grass and those
>> blades will miss them. It doesn't look like there's enough vibration to
>> shake the seeds down through the existing lawn and onto the furrows the
>> blades create.
>>
>> Is this a recommended way to get seed into a mature lawn that needs to
>> thicken to prevent unwanted weeds? Or should I rent a thatcher then this
>> machine to plant the seed when all the thatch is gone. The guy at the
>> rental agency says the machine will thach as well but not as much as a
>> stand-alone type.



Posted by Stubby on September 6, 2006, 10:13 am
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Right. You're going to have trouble. The tines will not touch at some
points and it will have problems getting over the rises. That was my
experience.


jaygreg wrote:
> ??? There is no such thing as a perfectly flat lawn in my neighborhodd (or
> anyboby else's I've ever seen).
>
>> The machine will work fine if your lawn is perfectly flat.
>>
>> jaygreg wrote:
>>> I'm considering thatching and resseding my lawn. A local equipment rental
>>> showed me a machine by Classen
>>> (http://littlewonder.com/turf-seeder-self-propelled.asp) called a turf
>>> seeder (he called it an overseeder) that he thinks I should use. When I
>>> saw the arrangement of the blades - considering the machine drops seed
>>> first then lets the 24 or so blades roll over them, my eyebrows rose; it
>>> seems to me a lot of seed will simply fall on top of the grass and those
>>> blades will miss them. It doesn't look like there's enough vibration to
>>> shake the seeds down through the existing lawn and onto the furrows the
>>> blades create.
>>>
>>> Is this a recommended way to get seed into a mature lawn that needs to
>>> thicken to prevent unwanted weeds? Or should I rent a thatcher then this
>>> machine to plant the seed when all the thatch is gone. The guy at the
>>> rental agency says the machine will thach as well but not as much as a
>>> stand-alone type.
>
>

Posted by Steveo on September 6, 2006, 5:41 pm
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> I'm considering thatching and resseding my lawn. A local equipment rental
> showed me a machine by Classen
> (http://littlewonder.com/turf-seeder-self-propelled.asp) called a turf
> seeder (he called it an overseeder) that he thinks I should use. When I
> saw the arrangement of the blades - considering the machine drops seed
> first then lets the 24 or so blades roll over them, my eyebrows rose; it
> seems to me a lot of seed will simply fall on top of the grass and those
> blades will miss them. It doesn't look like there's enough vibration to
> shake the seeds down through the existing lawn and onto the furrows the
> blades create.
>
> Is this a recommended way to get seed into a mature lawn that needs to
> thicken to prevent unwanted weeds? Or should I rent a thatcher then this
> machine to plant the seed when all the thatch is gone. The guy at the
> rental agency says the machine will thach as well but not as much as a
> stand-alone type.
>
Lesco sells a machine that operates on the same principal as the one you're
looking at, and I've heard they work OK as long as you stay within the
limitations of a slice seeder. We have a couple of the Ryan mataway's that
drop the seed behind the slice and they work very well on level soil away
from tree roots. Be sure to criss cross your job and go heavy with the
seed. I run 10 lbs/1000sg ft here in Ohio. (perfect time of the year to do
that here right now)

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