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Steve Cerruti wrote:
> Subcomandante wrote:
> by ruling like this and
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>>most certainly this ruling will be used for small association as well.
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> No, it won't.
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Than you don't know how the case law works. Even less similar cases are
successfully used in appellate court. There is no way that the court
will create two tier small and large HOA system where small association
can violate the constitution and large one can't.
>
>>The issue of free speech is fundamental constitutional right which the
>>HOA Bolsheviks tried to quash. More people are forced to live in the HOA
>>by city, county mandate more they have to provide constitutional rights.
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> And this goes back to the point of some of my original posts from when
> I first joined this group. In order to ensure free speech inside most
> HOAs we need a court ruling that focuses on the fact that the HOA is a
> quasi-governmental entity specifically because it's formation was
> required by an actual governmental entity.
>
No!!!!!!!!!!
You are fundamentally wrong!!!!!!!
The constitution is!... and we don't need courts to daily enforcing it.
The unalienable rights can't be alienated by the private sector like
the association!!!!!!
The private sector which does not respect unalienable rights is a cult
slavery.
What we need is to remove the lawless Bolsheviks from the USA!
I wold prosecute HOA Bolsheviks same as Al Queda.
> Otherwise HOAs that are formed voluntarily under the constitutional
> right of association will be lumped in with those that are mandated and
> they are two fundamentally different organizations.
>
> Currently if me, and a bunch of my buddies, get together and buy some
> property out in the middle of nowhere Texas because we hate the
> American flag and we never want to see one again, we cannot
> contractually agree not to fly one or sell our property to someone who
> would fly one because it would be in violation of State law.
That is fine!.... but that is called cult and you don't need CAI lobby
to force your hate for flag on others. You are still not getting it
Cerruti!.... the HOAs are not voluntary!...... Are you?
Clearly
> that is as much a violation of my rights as forcing me to live in an
> association is.
>
I can guarantee you that if you do just that I don't care!
I don't care about Jim Jones cult, in Jonestown HOA, Guyana nether.
> So while I'm against government mandated HOAs and feel that they
> should be bound by all the requirements of a governmental body, and I
> am strongly in favor of my right to associate as provided by the first,
> fifth an fourteenth amendments.
>
If the HOAs would be equivalent with lets say Country Club than I'd
agree with you. But they are not.
-Sub
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