Re: Grounding the receptacle boxes in an old house

Re: Grounding the receptacle boxes in an old house

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Grounding the receptacle boxes in an old house Rich Wales 01-26-2007
In article <eSzuh.35914$QU1.32442@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>,
volks@nls.net says...
> Doug Miller wrote:
> > In article <20070126215104.H05742.richw@whodunit.richw.org>, richw@richw.org
(Rich Wales) wrote:

> >
> >
> >>Hmmm. I didn't realize a GFCI receptacle could legitimately be used
> >>even without a ground. So, in that case, I suppose we could simply
> >>ignore the fact that the electrical boxes aren't grounded and replace
> >>every receptacle in the house with a GFCI receptacle -- and although
> >>this would cost a couple hundred dollars, it would cost a lot less
> >>than having an electrician come out and ground all the boxes for us.
> >>Is that what you're suggesting as an alternative to having the boxes
> >>grounded?
> >
> >
> > It's not necessary to replace every receptacle in the house with a GFCI.
> > Replacing the first receptacle (the one closest to the service panel) on
each

> > circuit will do -- GFCIs can be wired to protect all downstream outlets as
> > well. There won't be an equipment ground on those outlets, of course, but
they

> > will be GFCI protected.
> >
>
>
> Ummmmmm. Well, that _presumes_ that the existing recepts
> are "daisy-chained". If in fact his recpepts are daisy-chained,
> each one will have 4 wires connected, as one means of maybe telling
> if it's so.

There will be four wires in each box but the outlets may (should)
be pigtailed. The last one will only have two. ;-)

In any case, once the first outlet is disconnected (in preparation
for the GFCI) the rest will be dead, proving that they're daisy-
chained off that one.
>
> I am going to make a very, very wild guess that his 50's house
> is wired K&T and recepts are almost *never* daisy chained then.
> (That's just a guess because I have not been there to inspect.)

As Jim said, I highly doubt it's K&T. My parents built a house in
the '50s with NM. Some regions of the country still required BX
though.

> I'd never attempt to put just one GFCI on a circuit
> unless I knew for an absolute certainty that *all* recepts
> would actually be protected.

Push the "test" button. If the outlets go dead, they're covered.

--
Keith


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