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"azotic" <azotic@cox.net> wrote in message
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> "Subcomandante" <edicorp@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>> DG wrote:
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>>> Larry Bud wrote:
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>>>>That's tough rocks. Why should an HOA have any more power than any
>>>>other company that you owe money to?
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>>> That's a very valid question that I struggle with.
>>> If you owe money to the mortgage company, they can take your house.
>>> If you owe money for your auto loan, they can take your car.
>>> If you owe money to your credit card company, they really cannot do much
>>> except take your credit.
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>> Please notice DG, that in you examples above you have put-up your assets
>> as collateral in exchange for money to purchase these assets. In essence
>> you are legal owner but you don't owe your house, auto or credit card.
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>> In contrast in the HOA you haven't put up your property as collateral.
>> The HOAs were simply given power to non-judicially foreclose, which flies
>> in the face of all your constitutional rights.
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>> The HOA is the government within the government same as organized crime
>> is classified.
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>> You must understand this fundamental difference in order to continue
>> engaging in coherent discussion re HOA fraud.
>> -Sub
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> In a non-judicial forclosure your constutional rights are violated:
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> 7th amendment
> In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty
> dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried
> by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United
> States, than according to the rules of the common law.
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The biggest fear the HOA INDUSTRY has is encountering someone that
knows thier rights and has the resources to back them up in federal court.
When the howard hughes corporation steped in on behalf of a mentily ill
elderly woman to stop a non-judicial foreclosure that involved a small
debt of a few hundred dollars the HOA ran in fear and forgave the debt.
In a true common interest community compasion and kindness would
rule not management companies and lawyers.
Why cannot homeowners that owe small ammounts of debt to thier HOA
do some maintanence like cutting grass or painting maybe oil the gates
to offset thier debt. Rather than fine people have them do something
simular to community service that will benifit to all the other members.
Lots of things HOA's pay to have done can be done by homeowners
its not rocket science.
Regards
Tom.
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