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azotic wrote:
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> "azotic" <azotic@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:1gHdg.27709$QP4.18911@fed1read12...
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>>"Subcomandante" <edicorp@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>news:DTGdg.17546$fb2.14736@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
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>>>DG wrote:
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>>>>Larry Bud wrote:
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>>>>>That's tough rocks. Why should an HOA have any more power than any
>>>>>other company that you owe money to?
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>>>>That's a very valid question that I struggle with.
>>>>If you owe money to the mortgage company, they can take your house.
>>>>If you owe money for your auto loan, they can take your car.
>>>>If you owe money to your credit card company, they really cannot do much
>>>>except take your credit.
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>>>Please notice DG, that in you examples above you have put-up your assets
>>>as collateral in exchange for money to purchase these assets. In essence
>>>you are legal owner but you don't owe your house, auto or credit card.
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>>>In contrast in the HOA you haven't put up your property as collateral.
>>>The HOAs were simply given power to non-judicially foreclose, which flies
>>>in the face of all your constitutional rights.
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>>>The HOA is the government within the government same as organized crime
>>>is classified.
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>>>You must understand this fundamental difference in order to continue
>>>engaging in coherent discussion re HOA fraud.
>>>-Sub
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>>In a non-judicial forclosure your constutional rights are violated:
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>>7th amendment
>>In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty
>>dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried
>>by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United
>>States, than according to the rules of the common law.
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> The biggest fear the HOA INDUSTRY has is encountering someone that
> knows thier rights and has the resources to back them up in federal court.
> When the howard hughes corporation steped in on behalf of a mentily ill
> elderly woman to stop a non-judicial foreclosure that involved a small
> debt of a few hundred dollars the HOA ran in fear and forgave the debt.
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> In a true common interest community compasion and kindness would
> rule not management companies and lawyers.
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> Why cannot homeowners that owe small ammounts of debt to thier HOA
> do some maintanence like cutting grass or painting maybe oil the gates
> to offset thier debt. Rather than fine people have them do something
> simular to community service that will benifit to all the other members.
> Lots of things HOA's pay to have done can be done by homeowners
> its not rocket science.
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> Regards
> Tom.
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We are blaming Lawyers and CAI, however, the fundamental problem is with
us and I'm keeping going back to Frederick Douglas who said it so
eloquently that I'll not try to even explain it by my own words.
Unless people will adopt Douglas doctrine we are in deep shit.
Interestingly HOA Bolsheviks like Richardo and Travis will never comment
on Douglas.
"Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did, and it never
will. Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found
out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon
them; and these will continue until they have resisted with either
words, or blows, or by both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the
endurance of those whom they suppress."
-Sub
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