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Rick wrote:
> "Subcomandante" <edicorp@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:kKHdg.17559$fb2.17023@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
> > We are blaming Lawyers and CAI, however, the fundamental problem is with
> > us and I'm keeping going back to Frederick Douglas who said it so
> > eloquently that I'll not try to even explain it by my own words. Unless
> > people will adopt Douglas doctrine we are in deep shit. Interestingly HOA
> > Bolsheviks like Richardo and Travis will never comment on Douglas.
> >
> > "Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did, and it never will.
> > Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the
> > exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and
> > these will continue until they have resisted with either words, or blows,
> > or by both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those
> > whom they suppress."
>
> It's all relative Sub. There are people who consider income taxes tyranny
> and injustice. There are people who think Capitalism is injustice. You
> keep quoting the framers, but the framers knew that the country must be
> ruled by the rule of law and not by ideology. The rule of law itself was a
> revolutionary step from the ambiguous legal system of England. You do not
> seem to appreciate that. The Supreme Court, the rest of the courts, the
> legislature, the citizens, you hate them all. All you are ranting about is
> nothing more than a rant, not grounded at all in reality. There may be
> problems with HOAs, but you offer no realistic solutions, just irrational
> ranting like a madman.
The rule of law and Capitalism on the high slopes!:
http://my.earthlink.net/article/int?guid=20060526/44767d40_3421_1334520060526-2053643006
headline:
Everest Climber's Death Sparks a Debate
By BINAJ GURUBACHARYA (Associated Press Writer)
>From Associated Press
May 26, 2006 7:22 PM EDT
KATMANDU, Nepal - The story, an open secret in the crowded nylon city
of Mount Everest base camp, trickled out from the high Himalayas: a
British mountaineer desperate for oxygen had collapsed along a
well-traveled route to the summit.
Dozens of people walked right past him, unwilling to risk their own
ascents.
Within hours, David Sharp, 34, was dead.
The tale was shocking, an apparent display of preening callousness. Sir
Edmund Hillary, who was on the team that first summitted Everest in
1953, called it "horrifying" that climbers would leave a dying man.
But in the small world of modern high-altitude mountaineers, there was
barely any surprise at all.
That, in part, reflects the dangers inherent in climbing to a place
where temperatures are so low that skin can freeze instantaneously and
oxygen levels can barely sustain life. When things go wrong, there is
little chance of rescue.
But, many climbers add, Sharp's death also reflects something else: a
changed ethic in what was, until a couple decades ago, a tiny community
where only the most experienced climbers would be found that high on a
mountain - and where a dying climber would be abandoned only when a
rescue threatened other lives.
In Sharp's case, about 40 people are thought to have walked past him as
he sat cross-legged in a shallow snow cave. The few who stopped to
check on him - and at least one team did give him oxygen - said he was
so near death there was nothing that could be done.
"We've been seeing things like this for a very long time," said Thomas
Sjogren, a Swedish mountaineer who helps run ExplorersWeb, a Web site
widely read by climbers. "The real high-altitude mountaineers, the top
people in the world who are doing new peaks and going to mountains you
do not know much about, most of these people have become completely
disgusted by Everest."
The top mountaineers "often help each other," said Sjogren, who has
made many Himalayan climbs. "If you know him or you do not know him, it
doesn't matter: you try to help him until he's confirmed dead."
But many of today's Everest climbers are on commercial expeditions,
some paying tens of thousands of dollars to guides who are under fierce
pressure to get their clients to the summit. ... (cont)
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