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In article <45DB4002.2EE6@trentland.com>, oozenet@trentland.com
says...
> kenji wrote:
> >
> > In article <MPG.2044efa44afa6874989fc8@news.individual.net>,
> > krw <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <kenji-4C7288.09095720022007@localhost>, kenji@ripco.com
> > > says...
> > > > In article <MPG.2044d067aedc341f989fc4@news.individual.net>,
> > > > krw <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > In article <kenji-AA1FD0.08275020022007@localhost>, kenji@ripco.com
> > > > > says...
> > > > > > In article <MPG.2044ccbf5f437104989fc2@news.individual.net>,
> > > > > > krw <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > In article <kenji-4B038F.20354919022007@localhost>, kenji@ripco.com
> > > > > > > says...
> > > > > > > > In article <MPG.2044056871e8785e989fbd@news.individual.net>,
> > > > > > > > krw <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In article <kenji-5F15EE.07011619022007@localhost>,
> > > > > > > > > kenji@ripco.com
> > > > > > > > > says...
> > > > > > > > > > In article <xIWdnYmQBODlBkTYnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> > > > > > > > > > "Dan" <mercurysixohohoneoh@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 01:06:09 +0000, KLS wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 23:26:35 GMT, <aemeijers@att.net>
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>"Chicago Paddling-Fishing" <jwn@ripco.com> wrote in
message
> > > > > > > > > > > >>news:er2aig$o5r$7@e250.ripco.com...
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> In chi.general barbie gee
<barbie.gee@nosespamgmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> : and then I've this:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> :
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
<http://akimages.crossmediaservices.com/dyn_li/200.0.88.0/
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> ACE_
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> imag
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> eg_n
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> et/g
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> raphics/product_images/p1768003reg.jpg>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> : (Toro power shovel)
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Is one of those Toro power shovels any better than just
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> using
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> leaf
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> blower
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> on fluffy snow? (doesn't look like it would push
much...)
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>Chuckle. I have had great luck with my leaf blower this
year,
> > > > > > > > > > > >>since
> > > > > > > > > > > >>most
> > > > > > > > > > > >>of
> > > > > > > > > > > >>the snow has been the light'n'fluffy kind. The neighbors
> > > > > > > > > > > >>give
> > > > > > > > > > > >>me
> > > > > > > > > > > >>funny
> > > > > > > > > > > >>looks, and probably hate the noise, but whatever works.
I
> > > > > > > > > > > >>usually
> > > > > > > > > > > >>have
> > > > > > > > > > > >>to
> > > > > > > > > > > >>use the shovel on the plow dregs down by the road,
though.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>Also
> > > > > > > > > > > >>have to
> > > > > > > > > > > >>shovel if it is too deep, or too wet. I will probably break
> > > > > > > > > > > >>down
> > > > > > > > > > > >>a
> > > > > > > > > > > >>buy a
> > > > > > > > > > > >>snow
> > > > > > > > > > > >>blower come spring, if any are left and on sale- but that
> > > > > > > > > > > >>means
> > > > > > > > > > > >>I
> > > > > > > > > > > >>have
> > > > > > > > > > > >>to
> > > > > > > > > > > >>rearrange garage to make a corner for it, since I ain't
> > > > > > > > > > > >>gonna
> > > > > > > > > > > >>schlep it
> > > > > > > > > > > >>all
> > > > > > > > > > > >>the way from the shed every time.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I cannot comment on those power shovels because they do not
> > > > > > > > > > > > suit
> > > > > > > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > > > > needs, but I can HIGHLY RECOMMEND the Honda HS520 snow
> > > > > > > > > > > > thrower
> > > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > number of reasons. First, it uses regular gas and
doesn't
> > > > > > > > > > > > require
> > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > separate canister with that gas/oil mix. Second, it's
very
> > > > > > > > > > > > compact
> > > > > > > > > > > > and takes up almost no room in the garage (and this is a
> > > > > > > > > > > > huge
> > > > > > > > > > > > issue
> > > > > > > > > > > > for us as we're barely able to open our car doors when we
> > > > > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > > both
> > > > > > > > > > > > cars in the garage). Third, it is a real workhorse and
> > > > > > > > > > > > highly
> > > > > > > > > > > > effective if you stay on top of your snowfall. Yesterday
> > > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > > had
> > > > > > > > > > > > 17.8
> > > > > > > > > > > > inches of snowl, and I was out there three different
times
> > > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > > problems moving the snow off my 100 ft. long city
driveway
> > > > > > > > > > > > (understand, there are houses on both sides, so I've to
> > > > > > > > > > > > blow
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > snow ahead to get it off the driveway). Fourth, it's
very
> > > > > > > > > > > > easy
> > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > pick up and put on a deck, which is what I do for our big
> > > > > > > > > > > > deck
> > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > order to clear it off so we can get to the hot tub. A
> > > > > > > > > > > > great,
> > > > > > > > > > > > great
> > > > > > > > > > > > machine that's more versatile for my purposes in a city
> > > > > > > > > > > > house
> > > > > > > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > regular 2-stage snowblower that just hogs space in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > garage
> > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > requires gas/oil mix.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I've an Ariens 1028 (four stroke, electric start, two
> > > > > > > > > > > stage, 6
> > > > > > > > > > > forward
> > > > > > > > > > > speeds two reverse, heated handgrips and headlight, 28 inch
> > > > > > > > > > > auger),
> > > > > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > > > will move a 3 foot drift 50 feet in the air, and 100 feet
> > > > > > > > > > > away. I
> > > > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > clear a 100 foot driveway, that is 2 cars wide in about 20
> > > > > > > > > > > minutes.
> > > > > > > > > > > For
> > > > > > > > > > > me, the Honda's don't work.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -Dan
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I've a 15 year old with a great work ethic and a Home Depot
> > > > > > > > > > plastic
> > > > > > > > > > shovel
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Trust me. KLS' Ariens is cheaper. ;-)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > will it hopefully wipe your ass when needed, when you are 80
years
> > > > > > > > old?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I see. You raise children for slave labor. ...and to wipe your
> > > > > > > ass. Got it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > you were raised any differently?
> > > > > >
> > > > > Yes.
> > > >
> > > > tell us about the experience
> > > >
> > > It was wonderful growing up as a human rather than human chattel.
> > > I passed the feeling on to my son. He's not responsible for me,
> > > though helps out. You should try treating your son as a breathing
> > > human instead of your long term care insurance plan. You can buy
> > > them.
> >
> > I would like your son's personal opinion.
>
> There is no freaking WAY i'm wiping my dad's ass when he's 80. Or 79.
>
Nice, kid. Now go shovel out the driveway! ;-)
--
Keith
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