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On May 9, 10:53 am, trad...@optonline.net wrote:
> On May 9, 10:04 am, Lawrence <lwha...@paulbunyan.net> wrote:
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> > On May 9, 8:34 am, trad...@optonline.net wrote:
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> > > On May 7, 9:17 pm, "aemeijers" <aemeij...@att.net> wrote:
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> > > > "Toller" <Tol...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > > >news:uTw%h.8106$ya1.3986@news02.roc.ny...
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> > > > > "Bob M." <n...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > > >news:hOqdnawFjfOCBKPbnZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d@bresnan.com...
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> > > > >> "Berkshire Bill" <bkitt...@berkshire.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > >> news:463e6b88$0$4642
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> > > > >>>> Emptying gas tank and carburettor are primary.
> > > > >>>> I also (2) empty the oil sump;
> > > > >>>> (3) remove spark plug, squirt a few drops of oil
> > > > >>>> in the hole and pull manual starter once (to
> > > > >>>> distribute oil on cylinder walls, and replace
> > > > >>>> the spark plug only finger tight;
> > > > >>>> (4) store under cover from the weather.
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> > > > >>>> --
> > > > >>>> Don Phillipson
> > > > >>>> Carlsbad Springs
> > > > >>>> (Ottawa, Canada)
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> > > > >>> NO FINGER TIGHT SPARK PLUGS !! I unknowingly started a lawn mower
with
> > > > >>> a finger tight spark plug. When the spark plug left the cylinder
head
> > > > >>> and went through the side of my boot I figured "no problem" it will
> > > > >>> heal. Two weeks later they amputated my great toe at the first joint.
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> > > > >>> Bill
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> > > > >> ...and I would say the same to the suggestion to "drain the oil". Bad
idea -
> > > > >> you will forget, and it will be expensive when you're reminded by the
> > > > >> shrieking sound of bent, busted piston & valves.
> > > > > What is this "oil" you speak of? If he burnt off all the gas, where
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> > > > > there be oil?
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> > > > > Sorry about your toe! I wouldn't have expected that to happen; it must
> > > > > have been very loose.
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> > > > Do like they do in the military- use zip ties/baling wire, and big
colored
> > > > tags, to mark any oil sumps and POL tanks that have been drained, so the
> > > > poor SOB that pulls it out of storage years later has a clue what is
going
> > > > on. Hell, the older I get, the more yellow sticky notes I use to leave
> > > > reminders to myself.
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> > > Even better, just change the oil at the end of the season and put in
> > > new oil, which is what I do. I do not know of any engine manufacturer
> > > that recommends storing an engine with no oil in it. An empty sump is
> > > just more air space for condensation to take place. Plus, I don;t see
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> > The advantage is that untreated gas can go bad over the winter and
> > clog the tank and the carb requires an inconvenient and possibly
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> My comments were in regard to draining the oil, ie the lubricating oil
> in the sump, not the gas. The preceeding post should have made that
> clear, because there was discussion about tagging the engine to make
> sure it's not started later with no oil in it. Wouldn't need to do
> that if it's the gas tank. Very few snowblowers are even 2 stroke.- Hide
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oops my mistake. I admit I've never seen a two-stroke snow-blower
either. Right now they are trying to use as little of them as
possible. Chain saws and weed whacker are the only two stroke
machines I see anymore. A lot of Motercyles and lawm mowers use to be
but I do not see them anymore. Outboard motors are still made as a two
stroke but I think they are phasing them out. For weight to power
ratio the 2-stroke is superior to the 4-stroke but I guess they are
worse for the environment and inconvenient for the consumer having to
mix the fuel. My chain saw and weed whacker are 2-stroke, love em.
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