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Posted by Jack on March 19, 2007, 7:23 pm
Hello,
My house is 4 years old. I bought it new. Three bathrooms, 2 on second
floor, 1 on first floor.
.
The toilet on the first floor doesn't flush that well. I don't know if the
reason is because of venting, or if the reason is because its a 'builders'
fixture (Mansfield is the brand).
.
Would replacing this fixture with a high-grade model from Toto make a big
difference?
.
Here are the symptoms...Flushing the toilet seems to fill the bowl, which
raises the water level in the bowl, there is a small delay, then a flush
which is not very powerful. Water pressure in my area is not great. There
is no clog in the pipe.
.
I can do the replacement, just not sure if I should. It would only be less
than $300.00 to do the job.
Thanks for your time.
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Posted by Lawrence on March 19, 2007, 8:01 pm
> Hello,
> My house is 4 years old. I bought it new. Three bathrooms, 2 on second
> floor, 1 on first floor.
> .
> The toilet on the first floor doesn't flush that well. I don't know if the
> reason is because of venting, or if the reason is because its a 'builders'
> fixture (Mansfield is the brand).
> .
> Would replacing this fixture with a high-grade model from Toto make a big
> difference?
> .
> Here are the symptoms...Flushing the toilet seems to fill the bowl, which
> raises the water level in the bowl, there is a small delay, then a flush
> which is not very powerful. Water pressure in my area is not great. There
> is no clog in the pipe.
> .
> I can do the replacement, just not sure if I should. It would only be less
> than $300.00 to do the job.
> Thanks for your time.
If the stuff is going down the chute the don't bother. If it aint
broke....
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Posted by mm on March 19, 2007, 8:03 pm
>Hello,
>My house is 4 years old. I bought it new. Three bathrooms, 2 on second
>floor, 1 on first floor.
>.
>The toilet on the first floor doesn't flush that well. I don't know if the
>reason is because of venting, or if the reason is because its a 'builders'
>fixture (Mansfield is the brand).
>.
>Would replacing this fixture with a high-grade model from Toto make a big
>difference?
It depends on why it flushes badly now.
Are these totos everyone talks about compressed-air powered, or just
normal?
>Here are the symptoms...Flushing the toilet seems to fill the bowl, which
>raises the water level in the bowl, there is a small delay, then a flush
>which is not very powerful. Water pressure in my area is not great. There
>is no clog in the pipe.
Have you taken off the lid to watch what goes on in the tank during
all of this?
First guess, the tank isn't filling completely for some reason. First
sub-guess, it's set not to fill very high. Second sub-guess, it
sticks on something.
Second guess. The flapper doesn't open well. First sub- guess, the
brick someone put in the toilet to save water eventually moved so that
it obstructs the flapper from opening
Third guess Something else you will see.
It sounds like you haven't looked into repairing it. Why is the first
thing people think of replacement and not repair?
The toilet in my powder room refills in less than half the time my
other toilets do because it is so close to the water input to the
house. Maybe something like this causes someone to do something to
your toilet.
>I can do the replacement, just not sure if I should. It would only be less
>than $300.00 to do the job.
>Thanks for your time.
>
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Posted by Rick Blaine on March 19, 2007, 8:06 pm
>Here are the symptoms...Flushing the toilet seems to fill the bowl, which
>raises the water level in the bowl, there is a small delay, then a flush
>which is not very powerful. Water pressure in my area is not great. There
>is no clog in the pipe.
Fill a 5 gal bucket with water and pour it quickly into the bowl. If you get a
sarisfactory "swoosh" as the bowl empties, you don't have a drain issue.
Water pressure is immaterial - the flush comes from the storage tank. Pressure
just affects the refill time.
Builder special toilets are notorious for pour hydraulics. I have a couple of
Sterling's (made by Kohler) left that are horrible. Replaced 2 of them with
Kohler Wellworth Lights that work fine. If you want to replace it, pick up a
copy of the latest Maximum Performance Test of low flow toilets here:
http://www.cwwa.ca/home_e.asp
Look for the link that says "6 Litre Toilets" and then click on the 8th edition
report.
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Posted by Jeff Wisnia on March 21, 2007, 12:06 pm
Rick Blaine wrote:
>
>
>>Here are the symptoms...Flushing the toilet seems to fill the bowl, which
>>raises the water level in the bowl, there is a small delay, then a flush
>>which is not very powerful. Water pressure in my area is not great. There
>>is no clog in the pipe.
>
>
> Fill a 5 gal bucket with water and pour it quickly into the bowl. If you get a
> sarisfactory "swoosh" as the bowl empties, you don't have a drain issue.
>
> Water pressure is immaterial - the flush comes from the storage tank. Pressure
> just affects the refill time.
I doubt if that is also true for "power flush" toilets which compress
air above the water when refilling. I'd expect the initial flush
strength and the amount of water released to be a function of supply
pressure.
But since I don't own and haven't worked on one of those types of
toilets yet, maybe I don't fully understand their operation.
Won't someone help me please? <G>
Jeff
<snipped>
--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight.
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