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patio lights and leds Jim 02-09-2006
Posted by Jim on February 9, 2006, 3:54 pm
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 I have a Malibu patio light set with a 121 watt transformer w/ timer. I
currently am using 8 4 watt bulbs and two 10 watt bulbs.

I would like to use led bulbs in place of these because of the cost savings.

Has anyone had experience using these? There is a company that carries them
but I have gotten two different answer from them on how to use them so I was
hoping someone had used them.

Thanks

Jim



Posted by Paul on February 18, 2006, 6:12 am
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 To be honest this might be a waste of time. First the the cost savings of
the conversions to replace your current setup would run about $15
dollars. Now the transformer is still pulling 121 watts constant power.
You are not saving anything and the light output would be minimal at
best. Another option is go stright solar lights and add a longer lasting
batteries. I changed mine out and got an extra 1 1/2 hour out of
them...Paul




> I have a Malibu patio light set with a 121 watt transformer w/ timer.
> I currently am using 8 4 watt bulbs and two 10 watt bulbs.
>
> I would like to use led bulbs in place of these because of the cost
> savings.
>
> Has anyone had experience using these? There is a company that carries
> them but I have gotten two different answer from them on how to use
> them so I was hoping someone had used them.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim
>
>
>

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Posted by Ken Weitzel on February 19, 2006, 10:43 pm
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Paul wrote:
> To be honest this might be a waste of time. First the the cost savings of
> the conversions to replace your current setup would run about $15
> dollars. Now the transformer is still pulling 121 watts constant power.
> You are not saving anything and the light output would be minimal at
> best. Another option is go stright solar lights and add a longer lasting
> batteries. I changed mine out and got an extra 1 1/2 hour out of
> them...Paul

Hi Paul...

As an old retired electrical guy I agree with you 100% that to
do a conversion would be an incredibly bad idea for several
reasons... the OP would be further ahead and safer simply
replacing the set with a LED one.

However, a gently correction, if I may? An electrical transformer
is one of the most efficient things on earth... power consumed
at the load is virtually all of the energy used, so there sure would
be savings :)

An example that you might consider is the doorbell transformer
in your basement, most likely mounted at the service entrance.
It's energized 24/7/365 (only the output is switched by the doorbell)
and consumes virtually no energy while idle.

Now while I'm here (the reason I joined the group), does anyone
know where (in Canada) I can get ahold of the soil testing kits
like we used to be able to? I'm thinking mostly of ph, but would
like one unlike Walmarts where they can be used multiple times...
add soil, a drop of liquid, and compare colours.

Thanks in advance, and take care.

Ken


Posted by Sammy on February 23, 2006, 3:10 pm
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Ken Weitzel wrote:
>
>
> Paul wrote:
>
>> To be honest this might be a waste of time. First the the cost savings
>> of the conversions to replace your current setup would run about $15
>> dollars. Now the transformer is still pulling 121 watts constant
>> power. You are not saving anything and the light output would be
>> minimal at best. Another option is go stright solar lights and add a
>> longer lasting batteries. I changed mine out and got an extra 1 1/2
>> hour out of them...Paul
>
>
> Hi Paul...
>
> As an old retired electrical guy I agree with you 100% that to
> do a conversion would be an incredibly bad idea for several
> reasons... the OP would be further ahead and safer simply
> replacing the set with a LED one.
>
> However, a gently correction, if I may? An electrical transformer
> is one of the most efficient things on earth... power consumed
> at the load is virtually all of the energy used, so there sure would
> be savings :)
>
> An example that you might consider is the doorbell transformer
> in your basement, most likely mounted at the service entrance.
> It's energized 24/7/365 (only the output is switched by the doorbell)
> and consumes virtually no energy while idle.
>
> Now while I'm here (the reason I joined the group), does anyone
> know where (in Canada) I can get ahold of the soil testing kits
> like we used to be able to? I'm thinking mostly of ph, but would
> like one unlike Walmarts where they can be used multiple times...
> add soil, a drop of liquid, and compare colours.
>
> Thanks in advance, and take care.
>
> Ken
>
Hi Ken,

Try LeeValley. You can check them out on
the internet at leevalley.ca.

Sammy

Posted by Paul on February 24, 2006, 7:41 pm
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Ken, Thanks for the quick correction. You are correct that the load is
the one drawing the amps. Sorry about the mis-information...Paul

@news20.bellglobal.com:

>
>
> Ken Weitzel wrote:
>>
>>
>> Paul wrote:
>>
>>> To be honest this might be a waste of time. First the the cost
savings
>>> of the conversions to replace your current setup would run about $15
>>> dollars. Now the transformer is still pulling 121 watts constant
>>> power. You are not saving anything and the light output would be
>>> minimal at best. Another option is go stright solar lights and add a
>>> longer lasting batteries. I changed mine out and got an extra 1 1/2
>>> hour out of them...Paul
>>
>>
>> Hi Paul...
>>
>> As an old retired electrical guy I agree with you 100% that to
>> do a conversion would be an incredibly bad idea for several
>> reasons... the OP would be further ahead and safer simply
>> replacing the set with a LED one.
>>
>> However, a gently correction, if I may? An electrical transformer
>> is one of the most efficient things on earth... power consumed
>> at the load is virtually all of the energy used, so there sure would
>> be savings :)
>>
>> An example that you might consider is the doorbell transformer
>> in your basement, most likely mounted at the service entrance.
>> It's energized 24/7/365 (only the output is switched by the doorbell)
>> and consumes virtually no energy while idle.
>>
>> Now while I'm here (the reason I joined the group), does anyone
>> know where (in Canada) I can get ahold of the soil testing kits
>> like we used to be able to? I'm thinking mostly of ph, but would
>> like one unlike Walmarts where they can be used multiple times...
>> add soil, a drop of liquid, and compare colours.
>>
>> Thanks in advance, and take care.
>>
>> Ken
>>
> Hi Ken,
>
> Try LeeValley. You can check them out on
> the internet at leevalley.ca.
>
> Sammy
>

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