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put non-shrink grout in void under slab? edfardos 04-19-2007
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Posted by edfardos on April 19, 2007, 2:37 pm



Hi all - anyone know where i might find non-shrink grout or some kind
of flowable fill material suitable for filling a few voids under my
slab floors? Compression strength need only be 1000psi (equivalent to
compacted soil). Anyone know what mudjackers use? Traditional
concrete would shrink and nullify the desired effect wouldn't it?

The floors haven't really failed yet, just some minor cracks. There
are no mudjackers in California - the solution here always involves a
jackhammer and a readymix truck. I was going to install a valve-stem
in and end cap of a 2" pipe, drill a small hole in the slab, fill the
pipe then hold it down over the hole, and let it flow, adding air
pressure as needed with a compressor. The material will need to be
similar to pancake batter viscosity.

And before we get into the thread drift of why the soil is subsided,
we're not exactly sure and there's exactly nothing we can do about
it.. engineer says poorly compacted soil. I put in curtain drains
above the house in case it's a water thing.

Thanks a bazillion for any pointers as to what material i can use (and
find), or how i might squeeze it under the slab floors!

edfardos


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Posted by Richard J Kinch on April 19, 2007, 2:53 pm


edfardos writes:

> Hi all - anyone know where i might find non-shrink grout or some kind
> of flowable fill material suitable for filling a few voids under my
> slab floors?

Portland cement plus quartz sand, 1:3.

Posted by Art on April 19, 2007, 5:33 pm


Any supplier who supplies cement for commercial construction should have
bags on non shrink grout. We used a ton on my house for a repair. Be
cautious. If you have a perimeter drainage system you could fill it up with
grout and ruin it. There are companies (at least one) that makes a manual
pump for pumping it in. Find a real mason who gets masonry magazines and
there should be an ad for a pump. In fact look for a mason who specializes
in repairs and cosndier hiring him.



>
> Hi all - anyone know where i might find non-shrink grout or some kind
> of flowable fill material suitable for filling a few voids under my
> slab floors? Compression strength need only be 1000psi (equivalent to
> compacted soil). Anyone know what mudjackers use? Traditional
> concrete would shrink and nullify the desired effect wouldn't it?
>
> The floors haven't really failed yet, just some minor cracks. There
> are no mudjackers in California - the solution here always involves a
> jackhammer and a readymix truck. I was going to install a valve-stem
> in and end cap of a 2" pipe, drill a small hole in the slab, fill the
> pipe then hold it down over the hole, and let it flow, adding air
> pressure as needed with a compressor. The material will need to be
> similar to pancake batter viscosity.
>
> And before we get into the thread drift of why the soil is subsided,
> we're not exactly sure and there's exactly nothing we can do about
> it.. engineer says poorly compacted soil. I put in curtain drains
> above the house in case it's a water thing.
>
> Thanks a bazillion for any pointers as to what material i can use (and
> find), or how i might squeeze it under the slab floors!
>
> edfardos
>



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