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Posted by dkhedmo on October 17, 2006, 10:42 am
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yard, backed by woods. We're sort of halfway between town and country;
it's an old tract neighborhood, but more on the rustic side than the
golf course lawn type of neighborhoods. I have done some marginally
successful bin composting in the past, in the yard of an apartment we
lived in on the west coast. We are now in the northeast, and now that we
have our own property, I want to get into composting more fully.
With winter fast approaching, should I bother to start now, or wait
until spring? I'm thinking of composting household food scraps in the
bin (the Smith and Hawken stacking thing wiht the bi-fold lid) and doing
leaves and grass in a pile. Once I do get up and running, do I continue
adding through the winter, or take a hiatus?
Location - what do I need to consider? Sun? Lots of tall trees.
Drainage? There are some swampy bits here and there. (Questions about
drainage and how to fix that will be a whole 'nother post sometime.) I
was thinking of doing the grass and leaves pile in the woods, just
outside of our fence. Would I need to clear the ground of brush and
vegetation, or just dump stuff on top and go from there? If I were to do
the pile in the yard, would I clear any grass or weeds first?
We have lots of squirrels, rabbits, mice, various northeast woodland
creatures in the vicinity. How do I arrange things so as to *not* set up
a cafeteria, or a nice cozy nest? I'm hoping to go way back in the yard,
but what is the closest one might put a compost area to the house?
I grew up in the northeast, but the little I know about gardening,
composting, etc is all west coast based, as I lived out there in my mid
20's to 30's - almost year-round growing seasons, different plant
selection, etc.
Any advice to get me started is greatly appreciated. Websites, book
recommendations, etc.
Thanks,
Karen
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Posted by Srgnt Billko on October 17, 2006, 1:26 pm
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>
> With winter fast approaching, should I bother to start now, or wait until
> spring?
I add to a pile all winter long and start a new pile every year.
>I'm thinking of composting household food scraps in the
> bin (the Smith and Hawken stacking thing wiht the bi-fold lid) and doing
> leaves and grass in a pile. Once I do get up and running, do I continue
> adding through the winter, or take a hiatus?
see above
>
> Location - what do I need to consider? Sun? Lots of tall trees. Drainage?
> There are some swampy bits here and there. (Questions about drainage and
> how to fix that will be a whole 'nother post sometime.) I was thinking of
> doing the grass and leaves pile in the woods, just outside of our fence.
> Would I need to clear the ground of brush and vegetation, or just dump
> stuff on top and go from there? If I were to do the pile in the yard,
> would I clear any grass or weeds first?
I no longer start piles near trees cause I've had piles ruined by spider
roots growing up in them from tree roots below.
I don't do much clearing just start making a pile. The pile we started a
few weeks ago is in a rocky spot. First week was just a pail of kitchen
scraps and a bag of mulched leaves / grass. Since then more of the same
plus a neighbor who does lawn care dumped a pickup load of his clippings on
it that were mostly grass with some leaves.
>
> We have lots of squirrels, rabbits, mice, various northeast woodland
> creatures in the vicinity. How do I arrange things so as to *not* set up a
> cafeteria, or a nice cozy nest?
We haven't had much trouble like that but one year we did find some snake
eggs in one pile and occassionally the deer or somebody helps themselves
when we throw garden produce like half rotten pumpkins on it.
>I'm hoping to go way back in the yard, but what is the closest one might
>put a compost area to the house?
>
> I grew up in the northeast, but the little I know about gardening,
> composting, etc is all west coast based, as I lived out there in my mid
> 20's to 30's - almost year-round growing seasons, different plant
> selection, etc.
>
> Any advice to get me started is greatly appreciated. Websites, book
> recommendations, etc.
>
> Thanks,
> Karen
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Posted by A. Pismo Clam on October 17, 2006, 3:42 pm
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> We moved into our house a few weeks ago, and have quite a deep back
> yard, backed by woods. We're sort of halfway between town and country;
> it's an old tract neighborhood, but more on the rustic side than the
> golf course lawn type of neighborhoods. I have done some marginally
> successful bin composting in the past, in the yard of an apartment we
> lived in on the west coast. We are now in the northeast, and now that
> we have our own property, I want to get into composting more fully.
>
> With winter fast approaching, should I bother to start now, or wait
> until spring? I'm thinking of composting household food scraps in the
> bin (the Smith and Hawken stacking thing wiht the bi-fold lid) and
> doing leaves and grass in a pile. Once I do get up and running, do I
> continue adding through the winter, or take a hiatus?
>
> Location - what do I need to consider? Sun? Lots of tall trees.
> Drainage? There are some swampy bits here and there. (Questions about
> drainage and how to fix that will be a whole 'nother post sometime.) I
> was thinking of doing the grass and leaves pile in the woods, just
> outside of our fence. Would I need to clear the ground of brush and
> vegetation, or just dump stuff on top and go from there? If I were to
> do the pile in the yard, would I clear any grass or weeds first?
>
> We have lots of squirrels, rabbits, mice, various northeast woodland
> creatures in the vicinity. How do I arrange things so as to *not* set
> up a cafeteria, or a nice cozy nest? I'm hoping to go way back in the
> yard, but what is the closest one might put a compost area to the house?
>
> I grew up in the northeast, but the little I know about gardening,
> composting, etc is all west coast based, as I lived out there in my
> mid 20's to 30's - almost year-round growing seasons, different plant
> selection, etc.
>
> Any advice to get me started is greatly appreciated. Websites, book
> recommendations, etc.
>
> Thanks,
> Karen
Hi Karen,
Depending on where you live in the NE [Maine or the southern tip of NJ],
I'd say start now. You are probably aware that no meat, fish, fats,
should go in the container.
Here in San Diego, I chose the sunniest spot. The sun really does a
great job of cooking things down in a hurry. I also poured a small
concrete slap upon which I placed the container. Last time, I had gopher
and rodents burrowing underneath to get at the compost. I opened the
lid one day and there he was, staring back at me :-) . My composter is
about 30' from the house, on a slight downward sloping hill, but the
composter is level. Remember to turn your compost every several days to
aerate it. It may be best [easier] if you bought two containers; just
transfer the contents from on to the other, but two are not necessary. I
really like the 55 gallon drum that rotates with the crank of a handle.
I understand they work very well.
I wouldn't worry about doing any brush removal unless it obscures the
rays of the sun. The sun is your friend.
For further info, I'd look in the phone book under "county agriculture
department". If you've got a college local to your area, I'm sure that
they will have an ag dept of some type. Actually, you may wish to
contact them first; here in San Diego, we have recycling seminars where
they give away free bins, as long as you take the 6 week class.
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Posted by Jonny on October 18, 2006, 7:30 am
If you were Registered and logged in, you could reply and use other advanced thread options > We moved into our house a few weeks ago, and have quite a deep back yard,
> backed by woods. We're sort of halfway between town and country; it's an
> old tract neighborhood, but more on the rustic side than the golf course
> lawn type of neighborhoods. I have done some marginally successful bin
> composting in the past, in the yard of an apartment we lived in on the
> west coast. We are now in the northeast, and now that we have our own
> property, I want to get into composting more fully.
>
> With winter fast approaching, should I bother to start now, or wait until
> spring? I'm thinking of composting household food scraps in the bin (the
> Smith and Hawken stacking thing wiht the bi-fold lid) and doing leaves and
> grass in a pile. Once I do get up and running, do I continue adding
> through the winter, or take a hiatus?
>
> Location - what do I need to consider? Sun? Lots of tall trees. Drainage?
> There are some swampy bits here and there. (Questions about drainage and
> how to fix that will be a whole 'nother post sometime.) I was thinking of
> doing the grass and leaves pile in the woods, just outside of our fence.
> Would I need to clear the ground of brush and vegetation, or just dump
> stuff on top and go from there? If I were to do the pile in the yard,
> would I clear any grass or weeds first?
>
> We have lots of squirrels, rabbits, mice, various northeast woodland
> creatures in the vicinity. How do I arrange things so as to *not* set up a
> cafeteria, or a nice cozy nest? I'm hoping to go way back in the yard, but
> what is the closest one might put a compost area to the house?
>
> I grew up in the northeast, but the little I know about gardening,
> composting, etc is all west coast based, as I lived out there in my mid
> 20's to 30's - almost year-round growing seasons, different plant
> selection, etc.
>
> Any advice to get me started is greatly appreciated. Websites, book
> recommendations, etc.
>
> Thanks,
> Karen
If its a 5 sided bin touching the soil at the bottom, should be no problem.
Just throwing it into an open area with leaves and such and mixing it won't
do it. Just a slight burial of fresh food scraps will probably be found by
hungry varmints as well. Something that does work is letting the scraps set
in a large coffee tin for a few weeks or so. A little meat or fat is okay,
just be sure to have alot of greenery rotting with it. Be finicky when
cutting up your lettuce and celery, alot of it should go to the can. Don't
forget the used coffee grinds. No bones, let the dogs recycle them. Don't
cover the container while stewing, it won't stink as bad. Bury the
contents, turn every few days until absorbed by the soil. Keep the stewing
container outside, downwind from the house, elevated from the ground. Out
of reach from varmints. Dogs can help keep them at bay.
--
Jonny
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