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sick lawn Joe 05-14-2007
Posted by Joe on May 14, 2007, 3:51 pm
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I just moved in with my girl friend- her house has a ratty lawn. The problem
is that this area in central Massachusetts was a glacial outwash plain- so
the soil was pure sand at the end of the ice age. There probably wasn't much
top soil when this neighborhood was built and much of what was here was
pushed around during construction.

The lawn has many almost bare spots- and other spots with nothing but weeds.

I don't know if it's best to first attempt to enrich the soil with
fertilizer with the theory that richer soil will enhance the ability of
grass to compete with weeds- or fist attempt to establish more grass by
vigorously raking with an iron rake, then spreading seed, then frequent
watering- then after the new grass gets started- to fertilize it. With this
alternative, do I need to go light with the fertilizer or get a special
type?

Any suggestions?

Joe


Posted by Steveo on May 14, 2007, 6:52 pm
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> I just moved in with my girl friend- her house has a ratty lawn. The
> problem is that this area in central Massachusetts was a glacial outwash
> plain- so the soil was pure sand at the end of the ice age. There
> probably wasn't much top soil when this neighborhood was built and much
> of what was here was pushed around during construction.
>
> The lawn has many almost bare spots- and other spots with nothing but
> weeds.
>
> I don't know if it's best to first attempt to enrich the soil with
> fertilizer with the theory that richer soil will enhance the ability of
> grass to compete with weeds- or fist attempt to establish more grass by
> vigorously raking with an iron rake, then spreading seed, then frequent
> watering- then after the new grass gets started- to fertilize it. With
> this alternative, do I need to go light with the fertilizer or get a
> special type?
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Joe
>
Wait until fall, kill it off, top soil and seed, straw, and a bit of water.

Rock on.

Posted by Eggs Zachtly on May 14, 2007, 8:06 pm
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Steveo said:

>> I just moved in with my girl friend- her house has a ratty lawn. The
>> problem is that this area in central Massachusetts was a glacial outwash
>> plain- so the soil was pure sand at the end of the ice age. There
>> probably wasn't much top soil when this neighborhood was built and much
>> of what was here was pushed around during construction.
>>
>> The lawn has many almost bare spots- and other spots with nothing but
>> weeds.
>>
>> I don't know if it's best to first attempt to enrich the soil with
>> fertilizer with the theory that richer soil will enhance the ability of
>> grass to compete with weeds- or fist attempt to establish more grass by
>> vigorously raking with an iron rake, then spreading seed, then frequent
>> watering- then after the new grass gets started- to fertilize it. With
>> this alternative, do I need to go light with the fertilizer or get a
>> special type?
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Joe
>>
> Wait until fall, kill it off, top soil and seed, straw, and a bit of water.
>
> Rock on.

Sand base? Bent grass and a cup cutter. <G>

--

Eggs

-Every snowflake in an avalanche pleads not guilty.

Posted by Steveo on May 14, 2007, 8:39 pm
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eggsUNDERSCOREHEREzachtly@hotmail.com wrote:
> Steveo said:
>
> >> I just moved in with my girl friend- her house has a ratty lawn. The
> >> problem is that this area in central Massachusetts was a glacial
> >> outwash plain- so the soil was pure sand at the end of the ice age.
> >> There probably wasn't much top soil when this neighborhood was built
> >> and much of what was here was pushed around during construction.
> >>
> >> The lawn has many almost bare spots- and other spots with nothing but
> >> weeds.
> >>
> >> I don't know if it's best to first attempt to enrich the soil with
> >> fertilizer with the theory that richer soil will enhance the ability
> >> of grass to compete with weeds- or fist attempt to establish more
> >> grass by vigorously raking with an iron rake, then spreading seed,
> >> then frequent watering- then after the new grass gets started- to
> >> fertilize it. With this alternative, do I need to go light with the
> >> fertilizer or get a special type?
> >>
> >> Any suggestions?
> >>
> >> Joe
> >>
> > Wait until fall, kill it off, top soil and seed, straw, and a bit of
> > water.
> >
> > Rock on.
>
> Sand base? Bent grass and a cup cutter. <G>
>
Yeah that works too especially with the nineteenth hole on your patio. :)

Posted by on May 14, 2007, 6:56 pm
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> I just moved in with my girl friend- her house has a ratty lawn. The problem
> is that this area in central Massachusetts was a glacial outwash plain- so
> the soil was pure sand at the end of the ice age. There probably wasn't much
> top soil when this neighborhood was built and much of what was here was
> pushed around during construction.
>
> The lawn has many almost bare spots- and other spots with nothing but weeds.
>
> I don't know if it's best to first attempt to enrich the soil with
> fertilizer with the theory that richer soil will enhance the ability of
> grass to compete with weeds- or fist attempt to establish more grass by
> vigorously raking with an iron rake, then spreading seed, then frequent
> watering- then after the new grass gets started- to fertilize it. With this
> alternative, do I need to go light with the fertilizer or get a special
> type?
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Joe


The key question is how bad is the existing soil. If decent topsoil
is non-existent, I'd suffer through this season, then start over by
killing everything with Roundup and either tilling in organic matter
to improve the soil, or adding screened topsoil if necessary. In any
case, what you're talking about is a major renovation and if you're
just planning, it's too late now. Wait till last week in Aug/early
Sept when you'll have much better results You could use some weed/
feed fertilizer now to make what you have somewhat better.


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